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Question: Why is banking such a pain in the ass?

July 26th, 2006 by Lauren · 5 Comments

Emira and I both enjoy the finan­cial side of our busi­ness: the spread­sheets, the bud­get­ing, the finan­cial state­ments, the arrival of siz­able cheques in the mail… But any­time we need to do any­thing more com­pli­cated than a deposit at the bank, it’s a colos­sal pain.

We’ve come to the point where we sim­ply expect it to suck (because with­out excep­tion, it does), and that makes it eas­ier to take. But what galls us most is that our bank (well, credit union, actu­ally), like many oth­ers, claims to be a friend of small busi­ness — nay, of the small busi­ness owner — and to hold our loy­alty, our time, and our finan­cial well-being noth­ing short of sacred. What a load of crap.


It all started when we decided our lives would be eas­ier if we had a small line of credit, with which to nav­i­gate the stormy seas of cash­flow. We weren’t look­ing for much: just a $15,000 credit line that would allow us to, say, buy a com­puter if one or both of ours died unex­pect­edly — or more likely, get over a cash­flow crunch caused by clients tak­ing too long to pay their bills. We igno­rantly believed that, given our stel­lar credit his­to­ries as indi­vid­u­als (we were a part­ner­ship back then, so the business’s finances were our finances), the con­sis­tently (and com­fort­ably) five-figure bank bal­ance we held with the bank in ques­tion, and the ease with which we had always been able to land new credit cards, this would be a cinch.

Alas, it was not. Reams of paper­work and sev­eral in-person meet­ings later, we landed a smaller-than-we-asked-for credit line and we were told it was sim­ply too risky for them to gam­ble on an eigh­teen month-old com­pany like ours.

I would still love to know what idiot thought that was a gam­ble. And what genius thought up their mar­ket­ing cam­paign fea­tur­ing shiny, happy small busi­ness own­ers they’d sup­pos­edly helped along the road to expansion.

Over the years, we’ve con­fronted one hur­dle after another — and met an army of ding­bat employ­ees. There was the guy who spent twenty min­utes with us, fill­ing out some appli­ca­tion or other, before ask­ing us what line of work we were actu­ally in. Uh, might that not be some­how rel­e­vant to what you’re doing? That was fol­lowed by another bizarre moment wherein he started to ask a ques­tion, then blurted, “Oh, sorry, I’m actu­ally not going to ask you that… at least, not—” (cut to a whis­per) “in front of each other.” When we insisted he spit it out, it turned out he wanted to know our credit his­to­ries. Lordisa! On what planet do busi­ness part­ners hide each other’s credit his­to­ries from one another — and get away with it? I’d like to think that would be some type of salient fac­tor in choos­ing a part­ner, and work­ing with one. (When we said we felt com­fort­able dis­cussing that in per­son, he seemed surprised.)

All of this has left us with a feel­ing of being under­val­ued clients — but we’re skep­ti­cal about chang­ing banks because it seems doubt­ful we’ll do any bet­ter else­where. But I can’t help but won­der: if we’ve had such a hard time get­ting our bank to give us the ser­vice we deserve, what must it be like to run a busi­ness that depends on a great bank­ing rela­tion­ship — like a retail shop?

And here’s another ques­tion to pon­der… Women are less likely than men to rely on bank credit to finance their busi­nesses. My first thought is that women have less cap­i­tal than men (we earn less, and own less), so per­haps bank financ­ing is harder to come by. But could it also be that women, who value rela­tion­ships highly, are so fed up with the response they get from bankers that they’d rather find another source of money than tear their hair out wait­ing for their bank to get with the program?

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5 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Stv. // Jul 26, 2006 at 8:45 pm

    So, as you prob­a­bly know, I bank per­son­ally, and used to bank business(-ally) at the same “friendly” bank, and I have to say, they’re not at all help­ful. Not in the least. And even as an incor­po­rated com­pany, they keep telling us “1 more year in busi­ness, then we can use the company’s credit, not your per­sonal credit” They’ve told us this after years 1,2,3. The last time we chat­ted about a Line of Credit, we showed them the let­ter they wrote us after time #2, say­ing come back in year 3. And the per­son just looked at us like we were idiots for believ­ing their co-worker a year pre­vi­ous. We’ve since moved to a bank, and within 3 months, they, of their own voli­tion, offered us a spiffy line of credit, with far bet­ter rates and amounts than we had any right to expect. So there is some­thing to the axiom that big banks can treat the small guy bet­ter because they can afford to take big­ger risks…

    Bleh. I hate every­thing to do with money in busi­ness. Which is silly, being a busi­ness owner, I suppose.

  • 2 Lauren // Jul 27, 2006 at 6:00 am

    Stv.: Inter­est­ing. It’s just so frus­trat­ing to give our money to the big banks when we feel so strongly about sup­port­ing the local econ­omy & com­mu­nity! But when it gets to a point where they’re basi­cally imped­ing one’s abil­ity to do busi­ness, one has to won­der how much sup­port they really offer.

    Of course I also know tons of peo­ple who work for this credit union (none of them branch staff, sadly!), so I feel a kind of per­sonal loy­alty in terms of want­ing to sup­port their work. Oy vey.

  • 3 Darian // Jul 28, 2006 at 6:04 am

    I work for a huge bank as a busi­ness banker. Most banks will not give loans to com­pa­nies that have not yet been in busi­ness for two years. There are SBA loans that are espe­cially made for small busi­nesses through the Small Busi­ness Asso­ci­a­tion. That could be some­thing you may want to con­sider if you want a larger amount.

  • 4 Darian // Jul 28, 2006 at 6:28 am

    If you want infor­ma­tion on the SBA line/loan I would be glad to give you that. Not all big banks are that bad. :)

  • 5 Emira // Jul 30, 2006 at 10:46 am

    Dar­ian, I’d love it if you would post some info about the SBA here for other folks to use.

    I think it’s also worth say­ing that we’ve had sim­i­lar prob­lems with the very big banks in terms of an unpro­duc­tive atti­tude. We recently tried to switch our com­pany credit card from being tied to Lauren’s per­sonal credit his­tory to our Inc. busi­ness and it was the same waste of time. We called ahead for an appoint­ment, asked what we needed to bring, went to said appoint­ment paper­work in hand and were told that we were actu­ally not talk­ing to the right per­son, that no, no one there could help us and that we’d need to make a new appoint­ment. Beyond the obvi­ous finan­cial ram­i­fi­ca­tions of these sce­nar­ios, the thing that really galls me is the wast­ing of my time. I don’t know that we’ve ever done a busi­ness bank­ing trans­ac­tion (aside from the every­day deposit etc) in an effi­cient way, and any lack thereof has had noth­ing to do with us. Typ­i­cally we go out of our way to make sure we have every last bit of paper and info required before we even sit down with any­one and every last time the per­son whose job it is to man­age all this for us for­gets to have us sign some­thing, or has us fill out a two year old form then has to have us back to fill out a new one, or fails to under­stand what we’re even ask­ing for. As busi­ness peo­ple, who are frankly most of the time really freakin’ busy, wast­ing my time with use­less apoint­ments that often cre­ate more prob­lems than they solve even­tu­ally becomes really insult­ing. And clearly: frustrating.

    I’d also like to say that this whole post and dis­cus­sion of ours is not an attack at credit unions per se. As a per­sonal banker I’ve had great expe­ri­ences with this same insti­tu­tion. And for the record, the best major bank­ing expe­ri­ence I have ever had was when my part­ner and I got our mort­gage. We used another local credit union and I have hon­estly never felt so good about going hun­dreds of thou­sands of dol­lars into debt. I’m not really sure that they did any­thing for us that any­one else wouldn’t have done, but it was the atti­tude. Never once did they make us feel like what we were ask­ing for was unrea­son­able, and given that even try­ing to buy a home in this town is kind of by its nature a bit unrea­son­able with the price of real estate here that is really say­ing some­thing. They were help­ful, col­lab­o­ra­tive and this will sound lame but “prob­lem solvers.” It was really excel­lent, which was good because every­thing else about buy­ing a home was kind of terrifying.